RAP BEEF TIMELINE · 2025–present
Gucci Mane vs. Pooh Shiesty
The 1017 contract rupture and “Crash Dummy”
What began as a Gucci Mane–Pooh Shiesty mentor relationship became a federal criminal case centered on a disputed 1017 recording contract. The public musical exchange is one-sided so far: Gucci’s “Crash Dummy” turns the alleged studio incident into a ruthless diss record.
THE RECORD
The moments
Music industry
Gucci brings Pooh Shiesty into New 1017
Gucci Mane signs Pooh Shiesty after hearing his early work and positions him as a new 1017 star. The public relationship is collaborative, with records including “Still Remember” and “Ugly.”
▶ Revisit their early 1017 runMusic industry
*Shiesty Season* makes the partnership look bulletproof
Pooh Shiesty’s breakout album arrives through 1017 and Atlantic, with Gucci appearing on “Ugly.” For the public, this is a label success story—not a conflict.
▶ Read the relationship timelineBusiness dispute · disputed account
The mentor welcome turns complicated
After Pooh Shiesty’s release from prior federal custody, Gucci publicly welcomes him home. Later reporting describes a dispute over Shiesty’s 1017 recording agreement and a proposed release document.
“Welcome home @poohshiesty The MainSlime is back.”Gucci Mane, reported 2025 post
Read the receipt ↗Legal dispute · disputed account
A Dallas studio meeting becomes a federal case
The DOJ alleges that a January 10 contract meeting at a Dallas studio became a coordinated armed takeover involving nine defendants. Its release says a victim was forced at gunpoint to sign a recording-contract release, people were robbed, and one victim was nearly choked unconscious. Those are allegations, not findings of guilt.
▶ Read the DOJ charging announcementLegal dispute · disputed account
Nine defendants are charged
Federal authorities announce charges against Pooh Shiesty, Big30, and others. The DOJ says the complaint alleges kidnapping and robbery at gunpoint; it also states that a complaint is an allegation and every defendant is presumed innocent.
▶ Open the official DOJ releaseDiss track · disputed account
Gucci answers with “Crash Dummy”
Gucci releases the Zaytoven-produced “Crash Dummy,” appearing to turn the alleged contract meeting into a diss record. It is the one verified musical response in the public story so far—and it frames the alleged betrayal as a catastrophically dumb move.
“I thought it was a business meeting, but it was a set up.”Gucci Mane, “CRASH DUMMY”
▶ Listen to “CRASH DUMMY”
THE RECEIPTS
Sources and listening
Complex — Gucci Mane & Pooh Shiesty relationship timeline ↗U.S. Department of Justice — Dallas studio kidnapping charges ↗Gucci Mane — “CRASH DUMMY” ↗ARTIST LENSES